99 thoughts on “What Do Santa and Wrestling Have In Common? | Idea Channel | PBS Digital Studios

  1. symbolism is why we have numbers and letters
    symbolism is why we have the arts
    symbolism IS ALL
    but seriously, without symbolism: no language, no currency, no internet, no science, no religion, no philosophy, and, most importantly, no ideas! (thus no idea channel D:)

  2. Christians don't believe in Santa-most are hostile to the idea of him, because he's seen as "stealing Christmas" (Santa Grinch!!), and there is more evidence of Jesus and his miracles than there is of Julius Caesar. As to evidence of St. Nicholas-well, he was real, so…

  3. OK i will concede that Jesus, Julius Caesar, and St. Nicholas are all real people. But none of that adds any legitimacy to christianity or god as described by that religion.

  4. Well, when I found out that Santa was fake, it didn't really change much. "Santa" didn't disappear for me, he simply changed from "elf who climbs down your chimney" to the idea he represents. Christmas wasn't ruined, it stayed the same.

  5. I'm Muslim so I never believed in Santa or ever got gifts from the dude. You call it sad I call it "Santa…whatever"

  6. Christmas is a pagan holiday. The Bible never said the celebrate Christmas; it's just something that was thought up a long time ago so that people could dress up and give gifts and stuff.
    But Christmas is still an awesome holiday.

  7. That is just to make it easier for when you learn the other bearded guy in the sky was a myth too. 🙁 Christianity, Jesus how it distorts reality.

  8. It is just as made up as the rest of the stories in the bible, it's just someone forgot to tell a lot of adults in America apparently.

  9. Wow, other people actually know about The Krampus. But, then again, I'm underestimating the brilliance that is Mike Rugnetta.

  10. My parents are kind of weird in that they have always tried to never "lie" to me (in ways big or small), so I always knew that Santa wasn't real. This has in no way diminished my opinion of the holiday, nor has it even diminished the hypothetical magic for me; on two occasions I even tried to help other kids my age continue to believe in him by saying "He's real if you think he is." I think I might be letting my special snowflake show, but I don't feel like I missed out of any of my childhood.

  11. Well some thinks in wrestling are fake like the story lines and some punches, wrestling is scripted but some thinks are real because the ring is not your moms king side bed (i think the ting is made of wood) but only die hard fans know this 'cause only little kids think that everything is 100% real and the story lines are real

  12. this whole thing about nickleback bagins on the internet, ppl like to follow what they seems it is right just to "be cool".
    so… his musics it isn't that bad.

  13. Honestly I don't remember a time in which I believed in Santa. My parent's fault probably, they didn't put a lot of effort into holding up the facade.

  14. I never believed in Santa. My mom explained that it was a thing people did for fun, and I really liked being in on an adult secret. And as an adult, I appreciate my mom's honesty and I never had that "horrible" moment everyone else had

  15. I'm not sure you're using Barthes correctly here.  From what I understood from Mythologies (which I read a few years ago), Barthes argued that everything is imbued with significance based on the viewer's (or people's) cultural background and personal experience. Though he used wrestling as an example, I don't think he meant that wrestling is in itself fake in the more literal way you discuss in this video. Rather, like hairstyles in films about Rome or French toys, wrestling is superimposed with a collection of signs.  I think you take his argument a step too far by applying it to modern wrestling, which really is acting.  Not that modern wrestling cannot be understood using Barthes' methodology, but I think you oversimplified the theory not to understand wrestling, but to expose it as fake.  And that is not what Barthes does in Mythologies.  Objects or acts do not have more or less value after this deconstruction, rather the viewer has a deeper understanding of the object's significance.

  16. When I found out Santa wasn't real, it took the "magic" out of it. I stopped getting so excited. In fact, I started to feel bad because I knew that my parents had to pay for those things, and by that point everything I wanted was pretty expensive 

  17. okay okay i <3 wrestling and i have to say 
    the pain the wrestlers feel when they're in the ring is as every bit as real as it should be 
    its all scripted so in that sense it IS "fake" but heck if gave a shit its still great

  18. NOOOO SANTA WAS REAL… YOU RUINED MY ADULTHOOD! (btw, he is actually a cross-hatch of two or three origin stories. Not just the nick you mentioned. The earliest santa reference was a 800ad russian reference)

  19. I never had a moment of not believing in Santa, somehow my beliefs about him seamlessly mutated from he is literally real to he is an embodiment of the generosity and other feelings of the holiday.

  20. I felt safer knowing that Santa wasn't real as I was beginning to be really concerned that he was getting past our home security system undetected on an annual basis…

  21. I don't remember when i learnt that Santa wasn't real. I think it was gradual. From pretty early on, i saw my elder sisters preparing presents, and they explain to me how "they were helping santa out" (lots of presents to think about, he can't spoil every kid like they should), and I joined them in the process. Then it's like constitutional monarchy – the santa part becomes the least powerful and relevant part of the system. So probably why it was no shock when i learnt he actually didn't take part in it at all.

  22. My parents instilled in me from the beginning the idea that Santa was a fictional character, and yeah, it didn't make christmas any less enjoyable.

  23. I found out Santa wasn't real on my 11th Christmas and it has never been the same since… life can b such a disappointment first the tooth fairy and then this. 😕

  24. Santa vs. krampus should be a friggin' pay-per-veiw! I laughed my man titties off at that!:)

  25. omg i freaked a bit when he said the dutch sinterklaas, since americans think it's actually in germany or something.

  26. I think we by in to Santa because deep downer want him to be real. Also I have to say, he might be!! I've seen a lot of Santa science, and he could possibly be real! Like, some movies are sort of real, there based on a real life event. Also, maybe there's multiple santas that work like a network, giving gifts to everyone. Parents, deep down want to believe he's real, but they just can't, so they put out gifts. Santa(s) add some gifts to those houses, but not to many, don't want to get caught, technically it is illegal. And for the houses that don't get gifts, Santa realizes that there parents are awful and sends the money to a place that will help them, and maybe alerts them of the abuse/neglect/i don't know what else during the day light. A different theory suggests time travel, but that's scientific impossible. Any ways, maybe I'm wrong, but I think santas real!

  27. I always thought everyone was just pretending to believe in Santa, when I found out people actually did my mind was blown.

  28. Well he's not imaginary, he's just a dude from hundreds of years ago who gave carvings to small children in Europe.

  29. I don't think i ever actually believed in Santa Claus, at least not to the extent that other kids did, not because i was smarter, but because my parents never tried to convince about his existence. I think also living in a apartment made me question the idea more, since the only in was through our front or balcony door.

  30. I don't know if this has been established yet but I think the comment by "YouWillIdentifyFirst" was pretty much about the hedonic treadmill. Also, I think you should tell kids not to read the description or the comments.

  31. Well, Santa is kind of the world's currently longest running legend. He's folklore, based in history (the real St. Nicholas) that is told as if it's meant to be true. So, he also has something in common with Robin Hood, King Arthur, William Tell and Paul Bunyan. The difference is that with the addition of "magic" to the tale, he's no longer bound to an era. He can be an ever-living symbol of hope, faith, goodwill and generosity.

  32. It's weird, as I've gotten older, my appreciation and love for Christmas has waned in light of all the commercialism and cultural warping Christians try to imbue the holiday with. However, my love and appreciation for the icon/symbol that is Santa Claus has only increased.

  33. I don't recall the moment I found out santa was a fiction. My childhood had actual trauma so, in the scheme of things, it probably wasn't a big deal to me.

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